Webbing yoke reddit One thing I like about the AVS Yoke is that the back is self levelling, there is one D ring at the top center of the yoke at the back that the back webbing of the yoke runs through in a lambda down to the belt. The one I'm trying to figure out has 2 male and 1 female and a velcro section. Looking ally in issued kit is better than being some screamer who spends bare cash on gear and still struggles to soldier. I know when osprey carriers were first issued most units wouldn't allow kit to be mounted directly on it because of ied attacks anything to their Save yourself the trouble and money, just order a tailored webbing from JayJays. Plenty of modern webbing systems on the market although not directly Alice kit. There's plenty of hydration/comms cable and tube management on the straps of the rig. With the assault pack on the back look at how armies attached packs in ww2, it was common for packs to be attached to the webbing yoke so you might get some ideas there (see British 37 pattern small pack, German assault A frame, us airborne webbing) Plce>Alice/lbv all day. After handling the kitpimp and the JayJays I recommend the JayJays webbing. I think where PLCE really shines compared to the ALICE is that the yoke and pouch attachment is better. By making the webbing elastic, the webbing is only in the proper molle layout when pulled tight (which defeats the purpose of trying to make the side elastic), so you can't actually mount stuff to it. Alice is about outdated as the LBV-88. I'm trying to setup the webbing gear for a rhodesian kit for airsoft. I've heard good stuff about Jay Jay's webbing. . is this a belt issue or is this an adapter issue? the yom for the belt is 2016 and the yoke is 2018 if it helps. Then I see they removed the Futura Yoke. The JPC gives you elastic by using shock cord in the back. That’s primarily a problem with older webbing systems, war belts, even the belt that comes with the velocity jungle system jungle kit or anything that just has like two rows of molle to work with. Also can't run webbing like that without a short back ruck that sits on the rear pouches. No idea on the shipping since I got my marauder tactical webbing off eBay, stateside. However I’m working on building out a “lite” webbing (kinda like the Dragon Supplies lite ops belt) and the 4-point would be fine. The core of the system is the belt. This system, after having been introduced to the forces in the year 1960, and considered long outdated by the year 1980, was still being part of the standard issue equipment of the British Armed Forces during the Falklands Conflict in the year 1982. Thanks for the instructions and pictures. Mag pouches are possible but you'd have to get the lid/flap tailored. First impressions: comfort and capacity over a chest rig are both improved greatly. Second, the yoke you are using is too big to sit on top of a PC. The PLCE webbing definitely seems to pack a lot more internal volume than its German and American counterparts, which is why I decided to opt Fairly modular, but if you are running webbing to begin with you aren't looking for modularity, but stability and real estate. I ordered the belt + yoke and all the mentioned pouches save for the PRR pouch (the pouches I bought have Spanish buckles instead of clips like yours, though). Thanks! my whole approach to gear is cold war kit bash. Just folded the straps between the belt and yoke up so could get it all in one picture Edit: I don’t run these together, they are for different situations. They have plenty of 6 point yokes/harnesses that have molle on the back or even a molle vest type yoke/harness if you need additional storage on the system. I bought the JayJays stiched commanders belt plus their JayJays patrol There’s also this yoke if you want to stick to a 6 point attachment rather than a 4 point. Mayflower, blue force gear (only fits medium and large guys), dragon supplies, JayJays, kitpimp, Russian smersh, anything that has support for a 4 or 6 point yoke/harness. No one outside of basic training used it because it’s gash. If you're using brand name kit you'll be looking at $800+. I’m tempting to find a set of Jay Jay’s commander webbing after spending nearly a grand on different options to experiment with while trying to put together a similar setup. Everything is super comfortable and the large pad makes carrying weight nice. Too large and loose to carry sensitive or mission-specific kit —webbing: 3-4GP pouches are large enough for sustainment, but small enough for pyro, STANO, demo, fighting load refit, etc. hi lads, got myself a h yoke for my webbing as I didn't like the 3 point one. If you look around you can get a full set for under $100 including the pad, which is a steal considering you're usually looking at four mag pouches, two GP, and a canteen pouch. Marauder tactical has affordable webbing but I recommend taking off the metal D rings and replace it with ITW polymer ones or at least paracord. Everyone who's anyone has heard of JayJays. There is no molle on the back however the DZ rig includes buckles to attach to the molle on the bottom of a hydration carrier or small assault pack to clip into the belt, from there you could probably secure the molle of the backpack to the toggles of the dz rig using Yeah it runs at the base of my hips so can use a bergan/pack. My set of webbing is built around: Issue Osprey belt A JayJays yoke (no idea what they call it, the vest one), 2x 2 magazine pouches (coyote one is apparent US mil surplus) 2x Zip utility pouches 1x Osprey Med Pouch 1x Issue HE grenade pouch. It'll never come off then. This is what I call an Instant Self-Jacking Device. The thing about wide 4 row molle hippo belts like the one OP is using is that it’s not necessary to hook the yoke onto the pouches. What you could do for the 152 is get a molle yoke and mount the radio to it on the back. Reputable company making amazing quality equipment, there's a reason why JayJays costs more then your average webbing, simply put you get what you pay for, robust, strong, well made, with warranty. If you're just after webbing yoke(the over the shoulder bits) and beltpack that it can either attach to or wear belt separately then hit up military surplus shops. Customization and Personalization: Webbing straps can come in various colors and sizes, allowing for customization and personalization. Hello ! I am gear nerd and I'm happy I stumbled upon your question. It should sit right on top of pants belt or just above it. The other option is to get the Jayjay’s patrol yoke which is basically a harness in the form of a molle assault vest and you mount a cross draw holster there. I still have things I want to change on it and that just means more money. Fit wise I would say you’d have to be at least a minimum of 32” (pant size) waist or larger, or else it will rest on your hip flexors and fatigue you when moving. The Para's & SAS adapted such as trouser & webbing belts in the 1960s onwards. it arrives and lo and behold it doesn't fit. A subreddit for all of those in, interested in or have served in the British Armed Forces of any… Factory production “tailored” webbing is basically just like as the marauder webbing you have. The GP pouch on left to buckle system, added dump pouch, added second smaller DIY belt, changed the placement of buckles on the hip pad, installed Alice compas pouch(for a grenade) and added that sling on the yoke's I’m still sticking to the standard PLCE yoke/harness because of the ease of adjustment and I’m a stickler for the 6-point harness for this kind of weight. Business, Economics, and Finance. With a few notable exceptions, the Danish m/96 webbing is a faithful copy of the British PLCE 88/90. If you have a virtus helmet, use the carabiner(s) to clip one of the two (or both) straps at the back of the helmet, not the wanky clip that comes with the helmet cover. I used the webbing belt as a belt order minus the webbing yolks. ALL. The brits perfected webbing to be honest. Oct 12, 2024 · The PLCE webbing system had replaced the Type 58 Pattern webbing, which was Olive (OD/OG) in colour and made of Canvas material. wow Thank you for the input. It looks like Rhodesian P69 webbing, which is modeled off South African P61/64 gear. Or one. Posted by u/SKizzUMATIK - 53 votes and 9 comments Military webbing, also known as military load-bearing equipment (LBE) or tactical webbing, refers to a specialized system of belts, straps Missing: wolverine. The yoke/harness is a lot more comfortable and the kit as a whole feels nicer. On to another pack I guess. British are massive fans of keeping kit on their hips versus on carrier. Reply reply Posted by u/onlythelonely82 - 1 vote and no comments The move away from webbing is fairly recent. 257K subscribers in the tacticalgear community. A subreddit dedicated to the ancient art of blacksmithing. 56 mags will hold 2x 7. Basically it’s got the same stitched rear utility/canteen pouches but the sides are molle, so you can outfit them with admin pouches, or additional utility pouches of choice. And I thought that it makes some sense, since you could ditch the weight of the body armor in a flight situation, yet still have your webbing gear with all your ammo, your IFAK and whatnot, to survive. Can't fuck up the adjustment / only need to adjust one side, because it'll level itself out. 62 mags. Go ask the Brits. I recommend more modern webbing systems like the Jayjay’s commanders webbing or the Crossfire DZ-RIG, or the British tactical wide molle hippo belts (3 or 4 row recommended) and your own choice of molle pouches. Looking for a little help. You should now have two pull cords coming off the back of the yoke. If you're going for that look then expensive unless buying cheap knockoffs. Crypto British style beltkit with a yoke, it’s still in fashion for a reason. I don’t know if I’m a convert to webbing/beltkit, but it definitely shows its merits. I’d give doitriteak a visit. My solution was the use of shock cords/550 to the PALS webbing. The buttpack isn’t something you should be accessing on a whim. The draw back was they weren't quick release, you could loosen off the webbing yolks but not the belt. The jungle stuff is fine but the Brits have been running webbing since before WW2. Not half. There is also modern PLCE style Brit kit out there, both MOLLE and fixed pouch, and the fixed pouch stuff is cheap as well. Looks like you’re looking at the marauder tactical webbing. Don’t have much xp with other lbe but I really dig my plce. Very light too since it’s a web belt with integrated pouches. I figured the webbing would loop through, but I didn't know it would work so well! it's actually adjustable, so you can raise or lower the rig depending on personal preference. true. 39 votes, 20 comments. Sniper tape above it so it doesn't move up. The question came to me, when I saw pics of British soldiers in the Middle East wearing their Osprey Body armor on top of their issued Plce-webbing. Just looking at MOS stitching for their product shots, it looks pretty atrocious and sloppy. Kitpimp Commanders Webbing ~ $225 (MTP) all in. One thing I do like about the kitpimp is the addition of the map flap on the commander pouch and the compass/first aid on the double rifle pouch. For example Jayjay’s, Kitpimp, or you can just get a standard PLCE yoke and some 1 inch webbing and have a tailor stitch molle on the back for you. Jun 16, 2006 · Using a sharp knife, cut away the thread holding the straps together that secure those black buckles to the back of the yoke. This subreddit is temporarily private as part of a joint protest to Reddit's recent API changes, which breaks third-party apps and moderation tools, effectively forcing users to use the official Reddit app. PLCE 2x DPM Universal pouch 2x DPM double magazine pouch Medium PLCE belt green DPM hip pad DPM yoke Generic 1 inch belt Lots of velcro Frog bayonet pouch Generic Medic patch Decathlon backpack Strap green Mil-tec green dump pouch 17K subscribers in the britishmilitary community. 62 mags just fine. Run all the vertical yoke straps on one side of your rear belt kit loops through the loop. The yoke isn't too heavily padded, but I think it'll help if you're really filling the rig full. These are now very rare pieces of kit You could fit a good bit of junk in there. Or you can use the dragon supplies custom builder and build a webbing kit specifically for hiking than trying to repurpose the sewn-on pouches on regular webbing. JayJays is purpose built webbing. Those magazine pouches are mainly meant for FAL or similar 7. When I wear it all the way lowered the belt sits above my waist. However if you do intend to wear the webbing with a PC you need the low profile yoke/suspenders which are supposed to be worn underneath a PC. Getting the cummerbund through the webbing on the body side of the rear plate bag is a bit of a pain, but it works just fine. Better version of Kitpimp w/ same limitations Velocity Systems Jungle Kit ~ $540 all in. Supporting the belt is the six point suspenders (some call it a harness, the Brits call it a Yoke). Forms a shelf to integrate almost seamlessly with ruck. For additional security, you could comms cord it down as well, but not necessary. They usually have a molle yoke/harness to go with it if you want to expand the belt and mount things to the chest like a vest or carry admin things on the chest. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. The alternative is to get a hybrid webbing which has stitched/integrated utility pouches on the rear but molle on the sides for your own choice of mag pouches or whatnot. The yoke you have is a supplementary one used to make bergan side pouches into a daysack of sorts. Oct 5, 2024 · These were used to strap down drop cannisters & cargo. Could always replace the spanish clips with surface mount buckles for like $10 Yes it will work so long as it uses the JPC/AVS style skeleton cummerbund in the rear. From there, I'd attach a few mid-sized pouches to the belt/yoke: one to store my stove and cookware, and one for my food. I'll try to get you pictures later So the webbing going up the side of the back mesh panel are toggles for what will likely be crossfires own proprietary system. Unless you mean like my trouser belt? Then I see they removed the Futura Yoke. Very comfortable, fairly breathable mesh, and less floppy than the Alice webbing and the standard issue PLCE webbing. Haven't tried it with MOD issue PLCE webbing because I really don't want to have to dig them out of the bottom storage bin but I'm confident they don't fit either. How easy is the velocity harness adjustable on the I usually have two s-biners attached to my (JayJays but would work with any other) webbing - either one each on the right ammo pouch D-rings or one on the second back D ring and one on the rear right yoke attachment point (former configuration for patrolling in soft hats, second for PT). 33 votes, 11 comments. It came laced up as a figure 8. Thanks for sharing this Cheers BTW, the stretchy pockets are great, but don't retain heavier bottles like Yeti. Quality, High Speed Low Drag, modular. The bib has a small section of velcro-PALS webbing for admin or ID patches. Quality sewn-in unit, not modular, waterproofing, looks heavy but strong JayJay’s Commander’s Webbing ~$300 all in (if you can find it). Lastly, police those straps. The metal D rings that the yoke attaches to split on me. You can then add pouches as you see fit. A mag pouch capable of holding 3x 5. There is a British army 95 pattern yoke with adjustable straps that was the yoke generally used for webbing belt kit. Currently use mines with the surplus DPM yoke (harness) but there’s more modular alternatives like (but not limited to) the one Jayjay’s makes. Integrating placards with webbing straps could provide a flexible solution for creating branded or custom messages that align with specific events, themes, or branding requirements. They found that if you stitch the pouches to the pad they won't be flopping around when you run. The yoke also has a sturdy drag handle on it. US military forces were still using webbing in combat zones into the mid 2000s and in training til 2010 (some ROTC only moved away from webbing in the past few years). You can find older tailored British webbing as well where the user has taken their web kit to a tailor and stitched the pouches onto a comfortable wide padded belt. Then two or three smaller pouches on the front for easy-access stuff like a water bottle, pocket knife, trail snacks, first aid kit, headlamp, etc. Real tailored webbing is indeed stuff sent to the tailor with specific instructions from the user, but generally they’re just pouches stitched directly onto a comfortable wide belt pad like on the marauder and maybe some other miscellaneous bits 252K subscribers in the tacticalgear community. I have bought the 61/64 belt and yoke. Civilian tactical habits followed the phase out of webbing for tac vests and then plate carriers. There's 2 for the side yoke that have 3 male clips on. You'll end up spending less for an inferior product. I'd also go with the JayJays bum roll. I can comfortably carry more than I would consider necessary, and could have carried additional STANO or other mission-essential gear rather than the LVL 6 layer. Webbing is just very versatile and some units will still wear it with the carrier but It really just depends of unit and role. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Re stitch them back on using about 8 long loops of thread, and tie up the excess with two boot laces. The webbing on the cummerbund is mostly useless. Show off your latest creations or get advice on a problem. Seen a bit of intrest surround British webbing sets so here is mine I use for work. The color is a little off from the gear I have, though. Yoke is thin enough to run under armor comfortably too. There is no molle on the back however the DZ rig includes buckles to attach to the molle on the bottom of a hydration carrier or small assault pack to clip into the belt, from there you could probably secure the molle of the backpack to the toggles of the dz rig using Just change the standard buckle for a cobra one and get a better yoke. PLCE webbing is meant to be a standalone kit. Subreddit for both professional and civilian tactical gear. wfbas wumdqn fyiihj ogco xciaj lpxwdr bvzhr qdcu kqjjed amwbgz