Good durge romance As players guide their Durge—a custom Drow character—through the game, interactions with companions can lead to romantic developments. Highly Mine has to be Lae’Zel while playing as neautral/lawful good Durge. I think for Durge the better outcome here is dumping ascension Astarion. I’m wanting to make a customer character and Dark Urge seemed like a good one to pick since it has the backstory of an origins You can still romance. I honestly might do durge again but good for my 2nd run, though I will miss the astarion romance. is romancing minthara even worth it in your experience or should i go with like dark justiciar shart or Can I romance Lae'zel as evil durge? Act 3 - Spoilers I'm doing an evil durge run and was curious if Lae'zel will still approve of my evil choices later in the game. :PThat's good to know, thanks. She glitches, has barely anything to say, hardly anybody acknowledges her existence, not to mention sharing tent with Halsin and no interaction between them whatsoever. or is overall too evil, so her romance is best for a redeemed Durge. You get a lot of special content, interactions with companions, and your backstory brings all the storylines together in The moment finally came. So, I'm having a dilemma, I like both chracters and I am playing Dark Urge and I'm mostly evil, I make some good decisions because of rewards or difficulty, but I heard I can do some really evil stuff in Act 2, originally I was going for Karlach but she is more of a good alignment, is it still possible to romance her as an evil character or should I try for shadowheart? Who do you think is the best romance for each original companion, including tav and durge? For me it is: Evil durge: minthara Good durge: karlach Wyll: Karlach Karlach: Wyll Gale: Mystra (rofl) Lae‘zel: Tav Shadowheart: Tav Tav: see both above Halsin: bro is for everyone I finished my custom Tav play through and did a good run while romancing Astarion. I have been doing my evil durge playthrough (4th total) and I have just reached act 3. I imagine it's the same with Minthara, although depending on your progression, you can choose her as a partner at the end of act 2 and have the Durge romance scene after, so it's even worse that she doesn't have the scene lol. I love that she’s starts referring to you as “My Joy” and whenever my character tells her he’s been having urges to kill her she’s just nonchalantly says “I would just kill you if that happens” 😂 Durge is directly created by Bhaal. As you mention yourself, Astarion is the best match for this overall, since he has more unique content created for just the two of them, but Lae'zel is actually very supportive of a resisting Durge in her own way too and her overall romance arc is great as it is even without playing as the Durge. So, you like the Astarion romance but haven't tried Durge for whatever reason, go do it now! Noooooowwwwww!!! Commmppeeellll!!! (netherbrain screeching Hey I can corroborate what other players are experiencing with the romance. Diabolical. Tbh, playing as Durge really makes being a good guy way more rewarding despite the fact people save Durge for evil and murder hobo playthroughs. Shadowheart has a more "traditional" build-up to romance; Lae'zel the "sex first, feelings later" narrative. She goes from lover, to someone who disapproves of Durge, That is why I am now a puzzled on this run. Hey, everyone! I've avoided an ascended Astarion romance because tidbits of spoilers I've seen make it look potentially triggering for a controlling/abusive relationship. Hey yall, I know that some might think its silly but Id like to know who would be best/most fulfilling to romance. Gale has the same number of big romantic moments as Wyll; I think Gale's romance feels so much more fleshed out for two reasons - his big romantic moments are big, and he has a lot of non-romance-specific scenes, often with romantic dialogue included. Still just my opinion I'm doing a semi-good (as in I resist most of the time but I let him slip sometimes for the RP) durge run and my main party is Lae'zel, Shart, and Astarion right now. Minthara work well for a durge romance. (Also helps the durge solo endings are actually pretty good). Spoilers below: - I literally had 100 approval from him by the end of Act 1 on my good Durge playthrough I’m just on my second playthrough, first run romancing Astarion. I heard Astarion has some good content with Durge while romanced, while Astarion is the only one that’ll straight up approve of the fucked up shit you will be doing as Durge, Astarion’s romance ends up being one of the sweeter, more wholesome ones out there, Summary: I did the evil durge run because I wanted to see the other content and get the achievements for the bhaal stuff, but as a traditional good player For example, I was romancing astarion and one of the durge camp scenes is killing your romantic interest, but I needed a good rogue to open shit, ¥ÿÿW1ŽHWKo U Ø8¨¼ o@õ ƒ;ª €t U âî°Wů?þúç¿ C`pLà?0426153·°´²¶±µ³wptrvqus÷ðôòöñõãן ÿﯬúÿúùº/òù¤IK²tµB I played DU as "good on the outside, cannot resist my urges in privite" sort of thing, and can make following points: - Astarion is very supportive of anything that makes you lose control over yourself if you romance him, so if you are playing like - I dont wanna be like this - he is going to support you, he values freedom before good or evil So, I'll try not to do too many spoilers but you get this if you run a "good" Durge at some point in late act 2/early act 3. Act 3 - Spoilers For Durge playthrough this is quite nice as the narrator takes some time to wrap up your story as well (if you are Resist Durge + Unascended Astarion this is the Gale and Karlach are the most Good aligned companions you have in the game. A morally good Tav all the way through. The rest all have a touching dynamic. All other actions are purely because the player to do them. Problem is I don't want to get too spoiled about my other durge run in case I Gortash instantly spinning romantic fanfiction on the spot to befuddle his amnesiac friend because his amnesiac friend is now accompanied by a very angry Dunno if it's a bug but it's annoying when my good Durge already told them something along the line with "hey I think I might be a Bhaalspawn or at least cursed by Bhaal" and What really annoyed me about that was (DUrge ending spoilers ofc): I didn't romance him, but even just as 'friends', right before making a decision he was literally like, 'we can rule the world together', then I stabbed the emperor 5 times to stop him from killing the brain and Astarion's like 'dude WTF ?!' im like how tf u think we gonna take over the brain if its dead why u acting Astarion's story complements a Good DUrge rather well, as they both redeem themselves and comfort each other in the process. With both the others it was touching and funny, his was just meh. But there is also Gale, who is brutally amoral and will cheer on all your evil decisions once you convince him that slaughtering innocents is no big deal. Basically in the third act there's one decision that locks you into certain endings. Romancing Characters as Good Durge about the one where a redeemed durge is killed by Bhaal through ultra bloodletting and is then brought back by withers (shoutout to him). Shadowheart X good durge is my favourite romance in the game. I was planning on doing an ”evil” run but couldn’t really get myself doing bad things in the actual situations, so except raiding the grove I’ve been pretty good and resisted the urge. After that she obviously gets mad at you since of her history with him. Whether it's enough to keep your interest I can't say. I decided to do one with Wyll and so far I’m really underwhelmed. Here are the top romance options for a Ill also do a good run at some point with karlach Archived post. Evil Durge can full embrace can't. Good Durge is awesome! You get exclusive good durge scenes. I tried looking in up but only get answers for act 1. Sounds like Karlach does the same, don't think you can really go wrong I love both of them That being said, I personally prefer the way she is with a good aligned Durge instead of a Tav. If you want to do an Ascension run with him, save it for Evil Durge, but be aware it's the most toxic couple to ever This really is up to you. So I have already finished the game once with a good Tav and Astarion as romance and I'm about to finish it a second time with a goody-two-shoes bard and Halsin as romance. Help with Astarion / Evil Durge romance . Minthara's romance scene was lacking, but subsequent patches added more content for her. Gale is probably more of a challenge as they could potentially bring out the worst in each other with their power hungry ways. Durge just got rid of one puppeteer they really don't need another. For a redemption Durge spawn Astarion is a common recommendation due to the thematic links and additional content (Durge's writer also did some work on Astarion so was able to add additional interactions there). By all accounts, most of Gale's (romance) endings are really half-baked and unsatisfying. durge good playthrough advice needed🫶🏻 On my second run and I'm on The Dark Urge in act 1 and I'm trying to romance Astarion, you indulge all of his wants in Act I, you’ll most likely find yourself in an evil/chaotic run. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Romances (if you, uh, have strong willpower) are better - hell, I think one of the single best scenes with your romance only happens if you are durge. My I'm nearing the end of my current Playthrough. Any help is appreciated You could always romance Astarion for an evil Durge run and save Gale for the good Durge one. 😕 Do not get me wrong. And there you have it. There is one forced kill for plot. 100% yes I'm gonna try and do this with minimal spoilers for the durge/Astarion run, but to make a long story short, Astarion and the Dark Urge have got a significant amount of extra content that really takes the relationship to the next level, because instead of Tav leading Astarion toward the light, a good Durge and Astarion are morei want to say equal? Karlach, very similarly to Wyll, requires a good-aligned character in order to pursue a romance. Already romanced him once and am so tempted to do it again. Lae'zel thinks you're since larian was buillied into it lol. went in on my second play through as a durge and romanced him and I am undecided to resist or not. Jul 24 @ 5:10pm Evil Durge is an Finding the best ending for Durge and Astarion Origin Romance I am currently in the end of act 2 romancing Astarion as a Durge. Although personally IMO this misses the point of an evil run. The way she's genuinely, I haven’t seen many videos of the very unique Dark Urge and Minthara romance dynamic, so I decided to chronicle my own. Almost the exact same as what I did. Then I had the thought that I probably won't have Minthara on a run again. He's the perfect partner for So what do you guys think is the best romance for good durge (or just best romance overall) ? I've heard that astarion has a lot of extra stuff but I've already romanced him as tav so unless it's really a game changer I'd rather not go for the same twice. That stops any chance of getting good ending because it overrides it. And yes I do mean it 'cos I really can't find anyone else claiming to do so. Only Minthara will actually approve of your actions though. You can still play a good-aligned character and boost his approval. So I’m doing an evil run as a durge for my second play through and was gonna just romance minthara. I planned on ascending him and continuing the romance there for a toxic relationship. Good durge is likely more what you're looking for. Makes Tav feel kinda boring in comparison. With as few spoilers as possible—can I have a “good” durge ending with my romance partner without having to turn into an illithid? Ironically im still battling the decision so i really need to know because i want to do a god gale run and a durge run at the same time. One thing I would like from my next two runs is to experience Lae'zel's romance and story in full. For me I didn't play Durge. I love the banter and the intimacy of it. There are more than 8 romance options in the game, As players guide their Durge—a custom Drow character—through the game, interactions with companions can lead to romantic developments. It just feels like she's the most suitable character to handle a Durge. I'm inherently the chaotic good style player, so its even possible to save thieflings, recruit minthara, halsin, wyll (even without horns while sparring karlachs life) and karlach at the same time without having any single issue in future acts. So I planned my good Durge run around romancing Gale and after more or less clearing all of Act 1 I go to the Party. All throughout my first I was thinking I'd go for Karlach romance but oh man does the good durge astarion romance seem fun. Just made it to act 3 with my durge character. He has a lot of additional content where he is shown as an equally supportive partner. i’m team I would call Resist Durge, Astarion's best romance and his added dialog the strongest in the game for a resist Durge. Question is, would you, as an accepted chosen of bhaal, choose to? An especially good match is Spawn Astarion for Redeemed Durge and Ascended Astarion for an Evil Durge. especially if you play a good Durge where she does try to reassure you that you can fight the urges. I had guessed the devs wanted to make Durge's default class a Paladin before they had that interview because if how many times in Durge's story it is commented you are an Oathbraker paladin LOL Like, i used to be evil (warlock) and then became good(ish) (paladin). I haven't done a Durge run myself (gonna be my next run, just got to Act 3 in my current run), but it seems like they'd probably be the ones most down with the fact that you've got random murderous tendencies. Right now, she seems cool with my urges. You'll get two excellent romance arcs, and Shadowheart feels tailor made fora good durge run. It will be with whoever your closest companion is, so either your romance or highest approval. however, i saw someone mention that there isn't much content for his romance on a durge run, and if anything, astarion is the better pick since there's more story in his route. you can knock minthara out and still recruit her later and do all the good path quests as normal. Durge: “oh hey, Astarion, Astarion is a good choice for this, actually. They both seem fun, but I would like to hear what others think. Title. But when I return to camp and talk to her she just is immediately back to her usual romantic self. Good durge was my 2nd playthrough and evil Durge was my 3rd, and they felt like entirely different people and experiences. A second for flavor. And that's with ultimately going the good-aligned route and not pursuing the KW/evil route. They are both very romantic which compliments his bitter and disillusioned nature. I went to Gortash's coronation where he reveals how involved Durge was with the Absolute's plans in the first place and Karlach, whom I am romancing, was understandably peeved about the scenario and told me she needs time to figure stuff out. I really want to try a Resist Durge in my next run and heard the romance with Durge and Ascended Astarion is especially unique, so I'd like to give it a try. Before Patch 6, recruiting Minthara required evil actions, but now there's a good side option. People often say it doesn't fit with Durge's pre-amnesia backstory but, if you pick Oath of Vengeance, you can head-canon that they swore their Oath upon awakening with an aim to take down whoever put them there. I've never done an evil run, and I always have Lae'zel at almost max approval before leaving for Act 1 (you can gain a ton of approval with her at her personal quest Act 1). Good Durge is the best way to play this game, period. If i reject bhaal and withers revive me etc and at the end i destroy the brain can i still get the ending where gale ascends to Oh, there are quite a few differences between a good Tav and a Durge that resists the urge. Dark Urge OK, so I thought it would be a great idea to romance Gale as a Durge and have his goody-two-shoes ways influence Durge to be nice. Get ready to spend lots of oathbreaking money though. The Dark Urge can even form a romantic relationship just like any other Origin character. But, that scene is not guaranteed to happen and is entirely dependent on certain choices you make. But for the other ones, if you give into any at all (except the two. Made the romance scenes a little uncomfortable, but I just skip through those anyway because I've seen them all by now. I feel his Durge romance as a spawn is richer than the Tav romance, but I think that Durge, as a whole, is a richer experience than playing Tav, As good Durge, you are two broken things trying to stumble your way towards something better than So I figured I’d romance him again as Durge and it’s nice but he feels a bit unreactive in parts. I'm playing an evil durge at the moment (saving good durge for when I've calmed down and not played the game for a while, so it feels fresh & I get hooked on a new Tav) and when my durge killed Alfira, Astarion probably does a lot more self-reflection in romance routes, There were Durge conversations I thought were part of the Astarion romance, but now I see they are just Astarion being super supportive of Druge in general. A mod on Baldur's Gate 3 Nexus fixes Minthara's dialogue bug and romantic breakup, allowing players to enjoy her romance fully. It's also highly interesting to romance Astarion as a good Durge. I guess it depends on why your character is evil. Karlach and Minthara were way more fulfilling, and ofc I hear Astarion has a ton of unique stuff specifically for Durge romance. The synergy is perfect, and they have extra scenes, and the same writer. ¥ÿÿW1Ž Õ^ 47óáÜ Þ°q¨Þ‡€ªV qwØ«â× ýóߟ À¸û ‚Ñd¶°´²¶±µ³wptrvqus÷ðôòöñõó÷ŸiVý}. Then she had absolutely NOTHING to say at all about anything that went down in the Temple of Bhaal, while all my other companions did have reactions to it. Key word. I know there’s a romance in act 1 but is there any past that like in act 2 or 3 and if so how do you get them. In case somebody is looking to this, you absolutely can kill isobel with a good durge run. The best romance for Durge everyone universally agrees is Astarion. Thanks I'm sad that we can't develop her further. Larian obviously put in quite a bit of effort, expecting him to be a popular pick (and he is). I'm playing a good!dark urge, or at least trying to be good lol. So my question is, with this ending, will my durge still be able to go with their chosen romance parter after they come back? Is there a point to And then comes your romantic partner that your butler tells you you'll kill in your sleep since you refused to kills others before and your Dark Urge is now too hungry. the only thing you'll miss is minthara's act 1 I had a question regarding any Romance options (and potential spoilers) with the Dark Urge. I played Durge in full redemption. Lae'Zel and Shadowheart also have great character development which can get even more interesting through the lens of romance. But when I talk to him first at the Party and say everything that should lead to the romance he says something about drinking to I want to romance Karlach but just found out that your Durge Tav was a leader of the cult and was working with Gortash and what not. Astarion: 10/10. Ascended Astarion feels like he vibes better with a full evil playthrough or an embrace durge. Oh defo a pet. Minthara. Last edited by ReoHays; Jul 24 @ 4:54pm #7. I’ll take any good reason to play d-urge and romance him I've played a "good" Durge with spawn Astarion and I highly recommend. Come to act 2, I just barely had 1 vendor available to me. A Romance Lae'zel with your wizard and then play a good, redemption durge and romance Shadowheart in your second playthrough. I’m a Drow Bard too, and the combined dialogue differences and options of Drow/Durge/Bard are so vastly different it’s like a whole new game. He gets extra durge content the other companions don't. I actually felt like Astarion romance was a mismatch for my evil Durge — when you have the post ascension romance scene, you can pass an insight check to learn that he’ll never respect you and think of you as an equal if you become his spawn. It’s not bad though! I just didn’t really like any of his reactions to durge and story stuff, but To my knowledge, there are three potential endings for the Durge. Gale x Good Durge Romance - Immersion Break . then out of nowhere Minthara stole my heart and I love she wants to be powerful evil women together and Doing the highly-recommended redemption Durge and Astarion romance now, just started. Hello all. I would recommend not planning ahead, but feeling out your character and their roleplay tendencies before coming to a decision. Living as a spawn under the careful control of a juiced up living vampire almost-god. Just wanted to share with anyone who may enjoy seeing! Share Sort by: Thanks for posting this, it was cool to see it against my own runs' relationships with Minthara, both romantic and not, neither Durge. My next Playthrough is going to be a Durge run, actual seeking power evil not murderhobo evil and not redemption. I’m resisting the urge and getting worried about my ending options. On my “goody two shoes” play through I didn’t romance him and kept him as spawn and got a warm hearted thank you from him at the end of the game was very sweet. I don't think she's a good fit for a chaotic good/neutral Durge run. First play through as evil durge, I ended up with 0 vendors in Act 1 left. I actually played as a normal Tav. Swearing an oath to protect innocents when you are resisting your own dark impulses makes for a good role play. is a tedious process but you can do it currenltly without any single problem. I do love the tragedy of it though either way. § ©U”X àÁÐm)Zåzz¬ëQ(@ d²Eƒ! i’m not the original commenter but i did tav x astarion once and durge x astarion twice and honestly no not really. Both have their charms and thematic merits for either a "good" or "evil" Durge. Reply reply I'd love something similar like the scene in the extended cut ending for Mass Effect 3 where you're clearly on a suicide run, so when your companions are evacuated you say a heartfelt goodbye to your romance option with a last kiss I feel like stuff like that is really needed in games that have both romance and sacrifice . But when I woke up, it appeared my durge didn't have a good time at all? Reply reply Top 1% Rank by size . Maybe next run I’ll do a full evil run but until then, I will not let the urge take me! I think spawn Astarion and resist Durge go together better, as that’s truly both of them refusing this power and deciding to be free. And just let loose on particularly annoying villains. Reply reply You can lead her down the good path as a resist urge, or you can embrace the urge and lead her down the evil path. I think asterion(I know you said no homo) and shadowheart are the best for bot evil and redemption durge . I’m doing a Resist Durge, Astarion, hirelings, Halsin run. You have a lot in common and you understand each other’s situations. The drow is a vile character that, despite being controlled by It's easy to fall in love with Baldur's Gate 3's cast of characters, but which of the game's formal romance options is the very best? We’ve spoken before about the history of RPGs that let you Baldur’s Gate 3 has a few romance options for those inclined to mix love with adventuring as they attempt to save Faerûn. I wasn't a big fan of Astarion in my first game as a good Tav and I romanced Wyll. I am currently playing as a good Durge trying to resist the evil within and whatnot. I’ve become pretty familiar with this games seemingly “good” decisions end up leading to bad endings (ie shadowheart following her dreams of becoming a dark justiciar or astarion ascending). One piece of advice for the future. During the extra Durge specific romance scene, Astarion makes another direct connection to the violence in Durge and what he previously did. I love this character! She is the best for me! The reason I bought BG3. The Durge romance is also kind of broken if Durge loses to Orin. This is why I'm starting a Durge drow playthrough to romance Laezel. The Durge romance with him is seriously incredible but as origin I would definitely go for Gale or Wyll. He immediately catches your problem and sees you, and it's so interesting to see how he deals with meeting someone more fucked up than himself (spoiler: really, really well). I might be biased though because I always romance Astarion on every playthrough both Tav and Durge runs. For redemption I think Karlach and for full evil more laezel. Old. Some of his best romance lines are hidden in the durge run, especially in the break up options after Cazador but before Orin. But yeah, I agree that good Durge needs some massive quality assurance tests done, while being a major improvement to basic Tavs (who are the blankest slate in history of blank slates and have no tie to the main story aside from the tadpole and the fact that the rest of the companions for some reason agreed to follow Tav cause Tav is the main character - that's You can actually still recruit Jaheira even if you are an evil Durge. The lore you get for Oathbreaker Paladin Durge fits so extremely well with a Durge's story and themes, and it is SO GOOD. I should be able to romance her! The whole dynamic with Balthazar should change if you are the Dark Urge. Karlach has some really cute moments with the Durge too. Romancing The Drow As Dark Urge Unlocks A Special Scene. Either way, though, it really adds a lot of meat to the story. Look up how to romance Shadowheart as Tav, if you need it. Think of it as drug addiction. I love her as a companion, not just a romance option but nonetheless. Im very new to the game (only 12 hours in/level 4) and accidentally got into a relationship with Lae'zel, The Good Durge Act II scene changes that viewpoint pretty quickly. Otherwise Durge is almost certainly gonna end up killing Astarion lol. IMO, The feeling of rejecting your Urge is rewarded well in Act 2 and even in Act 3. I mean I get why he's not an option for the Durge romance scene, since you can't even romance him until act 3. Astarion as my friend however had a whole impromptu counselling session. I know enough spoilers to know that ascending Astarion makes him want to turn you into a spawn, but while my Durge is evil af, Not the most healthy mindset, to be sure, but it kinda works to make the potential allegiances gel. Because she is completely buggy anyway and generally has little content. There are even other romantic alternatives available that aren’t as long-term as a full romance, such Don't do Ascended Astarion + Resisting Durge, it'll break your heart. Orin is Sarevok's Child with his own Daughter Helena. I’ve played through the game once so, I don’t care too much about spoilers. And I was wondering if anyone had any opinions of between Lae'zel and Shadowheart, which of the two has a better romance storyline. Naoise Nallinto. Evil Durge is better than any other character on the evil route during act 3, but you still have to deal with fewer characters and quests, and even most companions will be gone, especially if you succumb to the urge every single time. I’m currently getting close to finishing my durge playthrough (tiefling bard who’s resisted their urge the whole game). But please start treating her and her fans better! At the climactic Durge finale Karlach was "very fucking proud of you, soldier" while Shadowheart had NO REACTION AT ALL. For those curious to know, a good guy Tav with Minthara romance actually felt better than Durge believe it or not. I know that somewhere in the story there's an even that prompts almost everyone to either leave or forcing me to fight everyone. Part of me feels like Tav would really relate to shadowheart in the memory loss, if you want to get to know the characters better first you might just want to do a no romance run first. I played dragonborn but never get much interaction from it. I’m in act 2 of my durge run and had romance scenes with both Astarion and Shadowheart in act 1. . I have a lot of issues with Act 3 but Durge's and the romance arc saves it. For an embrace Durge Minthara is a good shout, as she'll completely have your back. Minthara also has a pretty interesting dynamic with the Durge regardless of what style you're playing, and I can think of at least one line Evil Durge can get that's unique to her character. Spread the loveBaldur’s Gate 3, the long-awaited RPG from Larian Studios, offers players a chance to dive into a rich world where choices matter, including who they choose to romance. Good Durge/Good Astarion is probably the best written romance in the game. Planned. Alternatively, Drow is really nice as well. You get a lot of fun options in dialogue for resisting it. In fact, there's extra romance content for the Durge. As for romance, if you go the good dark urge path there is some really cool supporting scenes with your partner that are pretty powerful, Currently parallel-playing both, with good Durge ahead of the evil one, and I have to say that good Durge is a ton more fun. Are karlach or Whenever this question comes up, I'll always suggest Paladin. I already started my resist Durge run and am contemplating on who to romance. I sent everybody else to camp, and entered turn based mode. If you're doing Durge I Add major romance spoilers (think endgame) in spoiler text, but minor spoilers are ok for this thread. Now I'm thinking about romancing Gale for a change because he seems pretty interesting as a character. Durge is Orin's Father's and Grandfather's(they are the same person) half brother. I've been romancing Astarion so far. I've heard certain characters are better than others for durge romance (not arsed about the gender of romance). And a 3rd for favor. You can be pretty rude with Lae'zel and she often won't mind, but SH you gotta While many outcomes will be similar, a good Resist!Durge have some unique scenes. Then it makes no sense to recruit her. I used Gale to cast invisibility on my durge and my main damage dealer (OH monk asterion). I felt like my evil Durge would be way too arrogant and proud to ever tolerate being thought of as lesser when they’re the Chosen of a My question is, do good durge and good tav have different romance scenes/endings? Or, As someone who has romanced Astarion both as Tav and as Durge the romance is a LOT better as Durge, and he has the most Durge-specific content (except for maybe Minthara). You only get the romance dialogue for Tav or Redemption Durge if you destroy the brain. SP_Chuckles • Lae'zel and Shar-dowheart are both very down for a Durge romance. I’m just in to act 2 and had the resist durge related scene. Bhaal is Sarevok's dad and Helena's grandfather. i really love wyll and i want to romance him but i'm thinking twice about doing so if his romance doesn't have much to Honestly, I've saved Minthara on my current good Durge run and it's apparent that she was never meant to join good playthroughs and is just there because people insisted. If you don't mind a tip for playing evil, figure out why your character is doing it before you start playing. With Jaheira and Minsc in Act 3 so my epilogue isn’t dead and I have time to actually do side quests (Dribbles, the paper, Minsc’s stuff with the guild). Amazing chemistry, if you like him obviously. Yes, Shadowheart's romance good, her story is stellar, the game is great - but the pacing and some excution, composition and timing of the romance feels Astarion Romance Endings (Good and Bad) SPOILERS . Here are the top romance options for a Durge playthrough, ranked from least to most Minthara is the best romance option for an evil playthrough in Baldur’s Gate 3, and the most fitting for those playing as Dark Urge. Share Sort by Controversial. She does have good dialogue when present, but she really feels like she was shoehorned in after act 1. You can romance any of them as good durge! I wasn’t the biggest fan of his romance, but I did durge/Astarion first so that kinda made it hard for Gale lol. you can check in youtube for videos but be warned, its a pain in the ass process and i wouldnt recommend it for It doesn't make sense to play a good Durge and have a romance with Minthara. Romancing him as Tav feels bland in comparison after that. But nothing changes with him. After that, I’ll probably do a Tav+Gale or an Origin+Gale playthrough. Gives more of that redemption arc and forging their own paths, truly rejecting what fate has tried to force on them. Without spoiling too much, I think Lae'zel's romance is pretty neat since it starts out pretty carnal given her natural temperament and upbringing and becomes more emotional as you progress. Astarion is a really good option as there are quite a few parallels between Durge and himself that the game highlights/picks up on especially if you go a romance route. I was under the impression she would be very fleshed out love interest too, considering the hard choice I had to make to get her. For those who like the idea but don’t want to play Warlock, Wyll’s stat block converts easily to sorcerer or bard, paladin at a stretch, or a multi class combo thereof. there are no tav specific scenes that i can recall, durge gets bonus lines (said by durge or astarion or both!) in dialogues THROUGHOUT the game, the quality of durge x astarion (particularly resist durge and spawn astarion) is just unbeatable in general. My Good Durge is a Tiefling, made her look almost human skin wise save for the horns to give her almost a devil look. Her romance is the same, Durge just gets an extra scene in act 2. Someone said Shadowheart is great as well. It all works out in the end but I far preferred my Shart x Tav romance to Durge. I got the romance scene before the Tiefling party because I’d been grabbing approval wherever I could - he propositioned me after we dealt with the hag, No 1 on 1 romance scene after, just Durge wondering by themselves what they'll do with their life next. That being said don't think neither is fitting so much. I mean both durge and shart carry a big ass dark secret, it's a pretty good coupling, Soft_Stage_446 • I mean, I think Astarion is the optimal durge romance - both for the redemption runs (with spawn) and the embracing Bhaal/evil runs. The story symmetry is just great, and watching Astarion feel like he has someone to save is a really satisfying addition to a spawn Astarion character arc. I'm on my second playthrough, first time as durge (resisting). Karlach is naturally a supportive lovable goofball at all times so she didn’t hit the angst like Durge doesn't force you to play evil. Each going the bad and good for their personal quests . 12. I also think, importantly, while there are some unavoidable events (IYKYK), the Durge playthrough still gives the player agency in who they end up becoming, also known as the Revan special. I'm really interested in gale and Lae'zel, willing to try out most of the others (except wyll. Evil Durge is fun, but Good Durge is more rewarding, especially emotionally. But Minthara cannot be made Is it a good idea to romance Gale as evil durge? General Questions - [SPOILERS] So in my previous evil playthrough I romanced Astarion which was very fun because he has a great dynamic with durge. To be specific At Bhaal's temple becoming Bhaal's champion pretty much locks you into the madness, suicide or absolute ending. Good Ending: You defeated Orin in the duel, you were given the choice to accept or reject Bhaal's offer and rejected it, and you killed Are going full evil durge or redemption durge. Durge and shadowheart romance, even the Durge is surprised bout wtf is going on here. Edit for proper spoiler markings, apologies. major ones in the later acts) does that lock you out of the "Good" DUrge ending? Playing as a good aligned DUrge is interesting and fun but would be interesting to see some more turmoil and options. Minty is a fabulous Durge romance though! Def worth pursuing. More posts you may like Related Baldur's Gate Hi all, completed my first playthrough (none durge) and currently in the process of planning a good/neutral alligned character resisting the dark urge to start after the holidays. You can always play the the "good" durge since you still have all your options. Like, a big spoilery thing happened in act 3, he said 1, maybe 2 sentences n that was it. He does not have a completely clean conscience (that is clear, and not just because of Cazador), and he is not as “good” at making the good nice choice as other companions. so i'm playing a good durge with a sort of redemption arc, dragonborn paladin and all. In terms of race, it doesn’t really matter much i think. With the exception of the Drow Twins (hireable brothel companions available for your pleasure), Naoise Nallinto is probably the quickest romance option in Baldur’s Gate 3 As for who you should romance: I'd say either Lae'zel or Astarion. Currently me and Astarion are getting the early scenes as well as Lae'zel, but when I have to make a choice I want to know what you guys think is most narratively interesting. Q&A. After 550 hours and 3 good runs (one of which was a Redemption Durge) i decided to go for an Evil run as Dark Uge. I'm spoiler tagging them just in case. Like if they want to side with Minthara over the tieflings, why are they doing it? For you, what was her reaction to learning your Durge history from Gortash and Durge dying and being resurrected?. You can't formally enter a romance with Minthara until the start of act 3, so the only thing you'll miss is a durge-exclusive romance scene in act 2 (if you never romance anyone else). I don't know whether to do that as part of my Durge run or save it for the run after. But Durge with a Gale romance, for example, doesn't really have much up on a Tav aside from the extra interactions that Durge gets. Also some of his key choices feel like genuine dilemmas, as opposed to “obviously good aligned path vs obviously evil path” which is what you get with some other Origins. Just did a Good Durge playthrough, If you're playing into your dark urges and do an evil run-through, it's probable that you wouldn't be able to romance Karlach. Same scene basically as Tav's take over except your character gets a final line "In Bhaal's Name. I've heard that she opens up a lot and have been curious but am struggling from straying from what I know (Gale and Astarion) and wanted to get some spoiler-free opinions. Well Gale is very good aligned until Act 3 when he starts to become obsessed with the crown of Karsus. to me it feels like Astarion and resisting durge are soulmates straight up i've started my evil durge run and planned on romancing minthara because she is soooo cool and beautiful, however after reading up i found that many found her route lackluster and shallow? i am aware of the consequences of sacking the grove and i plan on doing it anyways. Good durge romancing karlach is my favorite romance in the game, but I’m also just a karlach simp so I’m incredibly biased. Her arc fits perfectly. Excited to see the differences. I romanced Astarion as Durge, and it's perfect - he expresses often how he understands the draw of bloodlust. I hear good things about the Astarion + Durge romance, but I'd like to know what you guys think :) Archived post. I have a DUrge save that is deep into Act 3 with Minthara’s approval MAXED out at 100. If you manage tho, you should be able to. The only people that have were people playing as good Durge. For me, she said a bunch of hurtful things after the Gortash scene. I did a good Durge run and was amazed at just how much content there was. That said, I’m aware that, eventually, assuming I have a partner, the Urge will compel me to kill them. But as my evil Durge, Astarion is already crushing on me and I see the appeal now. Shadowheart, whilst not exactly good aligned like Gale and Karlach, she does disapprove when you display cruelty to children and animals. You can romance any companion you wish as a Redeemed 'good' Durge. Share Astarion is perfect for good Durge imo. (or even moreso a good durge) support each other just flows beautifully through the game from the nautiloid right to the end. She's fine for an evil resisting/subverting the Durge run, in which the Durge is still evil and power hungry, just not in a "murder the multiverse for daddy Bhaal" way but in a "I will ignore/use the power this useless dead God has given me so I, being awesome, can rule" way. Astarion is a close second and I loved doing good durge romance with him. Everything seemed to be moving along according to plan right up until we met Gortash. Best Durge romance besides Astarion? If you can deal with Minthara's bugs and reduced content, she's a good pair for an evil durge. I suppose drow for a full-on durge and whatever else for resist durge. Im hoping they will eventually complete and release it, her character’s story is so good!! 😖 Absolutely yes! Just finished my romance arc with him, I feel like it adds so much more to where his back story came from, especially depending on particular major choices later on, without being spoilery. I’ve heard astarion and durge is awesome, but is it so different from a normal custom Tav romance? If you are going for a redemptive Durge, I recommend paladin. In good Durge you get more content with all romance options but I enjoyed the way Durge interacts with Shadowheart and Astarion specifically. Any tips from experience would be great :-). You were both slaves to someone, be it With new narration, dialogue options, and even cutscenes, these are the most compelling romance storylines for those playing The Dark Urge. I love them together so much. After you kill ketheric and take his netherstone, you will tele back to moonrise towers. " No Romance Dialogue. I hear Astarion has a ton of durge-exclusive romance scenes that no one else has. I've heard nothing but good things (planning on doing this myself once I'm done with my current run). I would like to not romance Astarion or Halsin again, just so I experience as many romances as Good Durge is not only viable but also very rewarding and, imo, When the urge happened again but WITH my romantic companion, that was a very unexpected scene that melted my heart. So i know there are some DUrge momenta you cant prevent. You get to wake them up and ask them for help to control you and having the "power of love" help along the way. I'm working on a new durge save and wanted to know if Lae'zel is a good character to romance. I’m now to the point in act 2 where I have to choose. Reply reply I want to do a second playthrough as evil dark urge and romance minthara but I want to wait until her bug gets fixed, and so I thought of doing a good durge run in the meanwhile. cgkiad fuew cnmpkvs bjhhm jzng lhfyn foilwpe bhxph edezs dylh